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Post by Leigh on Jul 6, 2007 1:11:34 GMT -5
I don't know... Did Dumbledore ever say he knew who their secret keeper was, or that they just switched without telling him? Blah... Otherwise, Dumbledore wouldn't know. Still, because of the blood safety thing, he would have given Harry to the Dursleys anyway, even if Sirius had never been framed.
My brain's at the mall, thank you very much! I keep telling my mom I have to go back to get it, but she seems reluctant... something about spending too much many and too much time...
*sigh*
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Post by nutz4hpotter6 on Jul 6, 2007 1:13:23 GMT -5
For McGonigal to know that Sirius was set up then she would have known that Pettigrew was the secret keeper and not Sirius. Dumbledore couldn't put Harry with Sirius because for Harry to be protected, meaning that Voldmort couldn't get to him, he had to be placed with a blood relative. Sirius isn't a blood relative. Plus we have to remember that no one knew who the prophecy was about until Voldemort attacked either Harry or Neville. So for McGonigal to be sitting at the Dursley's means that she knew something no one else knew. I am confusing myself as I type this.
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Post by Te§§a™ on Jul 6, 2007 1:17:15 GMT -5
You know where my brain is. Well half of it is anyway.
He would have, but Sirius would have:
1.Stole him back resulting in a tug-o-war battle over harry [Not physicly but verbally]
2.Legally took him back
3.Threatened the Dursleys and moved in
4.Worked out an agreement with Dumbledore to visit once a month or something like that.
No I don't think he ever did. I need to send these theories to J.K. and get proof that they are true! THEY ARE PATTENTED!
All Theories By Tessa Are Pattented. ©2007-10007. ;P;D
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The Order was most likely notified of the Deaths of the Potters, therefore making the Prophecy clear to her. She probably thought that Sriuis was the secret keeper seeing as no one knew of the change. Don't worry, we all confuse ourselves sometimes
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Post by Leigh on Jul 6, 2007 1:17:44 GMT -5
Well... McGonagall would have to know something, besides the fact that rumor had already gotten around that Lily and James were dead, so she knew that LV had attacked Harry. Well... maybe not knew, but was pretty sure. Since I'm not sure that Dumbledore even knew Pettigrew was the secret keeper (although I can't see that... Dumbledore would have to know... wouldn't he be the one to cast it?), then maybe McGonagall didn't know about that... But I don't think she knew Sirius was framed.
BTW, Tessa, I doubt Sirius would have gotten through Dumbledore.
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Post by Te§§a™ on Jul 6, 2007 1:20:49 GMT -5
I doubt it as well. As I stated earlier, he is stubborn. Meh aren't we all. See prvious edited post for detailes.
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Post by Leigh on Jul 6, 2007 1:24:08 GMT -5
Of course the Order was notified...
Maybe Dumbledore would have let Sirius see Harry, though. Just guessing, because Hagrid was shocked Harry didn't know about the wizarding world. But I don't think Dumbledore wanted Harry to know until he was ready... Can't see why, though.
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Post by nutz4hpotter6 on Jul 6, 2007 1:29:17 GMT -5
I remember reading in the book that everyone thought that Sirius was the Potter's secret keeper. But Sirius was convinced by Pettigrew to change at the last minute. I can't remember why though. So Dumbledore thought Sirius was their secret keeper.
When exactly where the Potter's murdered. I know it was at night. McGonigal sat on the windowsill all day. Was that before Harry's parents were attacked or afterwards? If it was afterwards then why did it take so long for them to get Harry there. That would have been a full 24 hours. If my thoughts are correct.
I think Dumbledore was expecting or hoping the Dursley's would tell Harry about his parents and what they were. Now whether he would have allowed Sirius to visit Harry is a whole other story line.
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Post by Te§§a™ on Jul 6, 2007 11:43:06 GMT -5
Then again McGonagall could have been exaggerating about "all day". I believe it was because Sirius was well known to be inseparable with James and he would be the most likely one to be the secret-keeper, so changing to Peter(who is kind of a no body who just helped them play pranks.) would be less obvious.
Dumbledore may have let Sirius visit often but that would just make the Dursleys mad and "punish" Harry but sticking him in the cubbed for "having freaks over" or something like that.
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Post by nutz4hpotter6 on Jul 6, 2007 12:18:14 GMT -5
Yeah but if Sirius did visit he would have told Harry about his parents and them being a witch and wizard which would then have changed the way Harry grew up.
In the book it starts off at the Dursley's house. At 8:30 Vern leaves for work and notices the cat on the corner. The cat is McGonigal. When Vern gets back home after work the cat is still there. We are made to assume that the cat never left. I don't think McGonigal would lie about being there all day and if she did lie then that she could be lieing about being on the good side.
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Post by Te§§a™ on Jul 6, 2007 19:59:37 GMT -5
Oops. forgot about that! I still say it was because she knew about the Dursleys from hearing Lilly talk about Petunia in passing so she may have tried to proe to DUmbledore that leaving him there is a bad decision
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Post by Leigh on Jul 6, 2007 23:09:42 GMT -5
When exactly where the Potter's murdered. I know it was at night. McGonigal sat on the windowsill all day. Was that before Harry's parents were attacked or afterwards? If it was afterwards then why did it take so long for them to get Harry there. That would have been a full 24 hours. If my thoughts are correct. Just a guess, but maybe they took him to Hogwarts or Mungo's to make sure he was ok?? Maybe? Possibly? Because people were celebrating the entire day, it was on the news in the morning. Otherwise, I've no clue why it would take so long, that's only a guess. |
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Post by nutz4hpotter6 on Jul 7, 2007 13:08:51 GMT -5
When exactly where the Potter's murdered. I know it was at night. McGonigal sat on the windowsill all day. Was that before Harry's parents were attacked or afterwards? If it was afterwards then why did it take so long for them to get Harry there. That would have been a full 24 hours. If my thoughts are correct. Just a guess, but maybe they took him to Hogwarts or Mungo's to make sure he was ok?? Maybe? Possibly? Because people were celebrating the entire day, it was on the news in the morning. Otherwise, I've no clue why it would take so long, that's only a guess. That could be what they did. I do remember I think Hagrid saying that there was alot of rubble. So maybe it took awhile to go through all that rubble without the muggles knowing anything or finding anything out. I am assuming that Godrics Hollow is in the muggle world too and that they can see it but I don't know. There are so many ways to put holes into this theory but then you can back it again. We will know in less the 2 weeks now. |
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Post by Leigh on Jul 7, 2007 15:20:48 GMT -5
Ahhh! Don't say that!! Oh my eggroll... I could cry.
Yeah, because Hogsmeade is the only purely wizarding community in Britain, so Godric's Hollow would have to have muggles in it.
You can put holes in any theory, but in the end, it doesn't matter because JKR is going to do whatever she wants. Haha.
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Post by GinnyLynn on Jul 7, 2007 19:52:13 GMT -5
that is some very interesting stuff!!!
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Post by Siriusly Rosemary on Aug 4, 2007 22:49:37 GMT -5
Okay I was just in Barnes and Noble book clubs. They are discussing alot of things about the HP books. I have never heard of this theory but just want to put it out there for you guys to comment. I don't know if any one here has ever heard of the book The Plot Thickens. It is a Harry Potter Analysis book. I have never heard of it so I will be checking out the book store today or tomorrow. Okay now on to this theory. I am going to try and make it shorter then what I read. The theory is that McGonagall is Death Eater. That when Voldemort talks about his DE at the grave yard and says that his most loyal Death Eater is at Hogwarts. He doesn't mean Snape or Crouch Jr. but in fact means McGonagall. I know that Voldemort does use the word he but the post I read said that could just have been said because if he said she it wouldn't leave too many choices as to whom he was talking about. This is just something I read on a different site. The things posted about McGonagall now have me wondering if maybe she is a Death Eater. The person states about how she is nervous in some scenes and then not nervous when she should be. Like when Snape kills Dumbledore she feels that she is very relaxed and ready to take command. She also goes on to state about how she watches the Dursley's all day. And when Dumbledore arrives she is not sure if the rumors are true or not. For someone not sure if the Potter's are dead then why is she stalking the Dursley's? There are many more reasons she gives but I don't feel like posting them all. Just tell me what you guys think. All I have to say is that I am now very curious about McGonagall.    Remeber Voldemort thinks SNAPE is a death eater still... |
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