Younger Gen

[Te§§a™]

I know this may sound weird considering how old I am, but, has anyone noticed that the younger kids [I'm talking like 6-9 and girls mainly] are trying to be diva's?

This really got me mad what they did at my brothers baseball game.

There was this little boy, no more than eight at the game. He had this baby frog with him and acted like the frog was his best friend in the world. The kid sat there content with himself playing with the frog and laughing; he even came up with a name! Then three girls I know from school [all only around 8] come up to him and take the frog.

They started making fun of him and killed the frog by cutting the heads off. Yes, cut the head off. Now I always thought young girls who dressed all fancy were supposed to act like girls. The boy began to sob and was hyperventilating because he was so upset.

My mom was close to going over and snatching them by their ears but refrained herself as the poor boy ran off to find his mother. It was obvious the boy was a bit slow and had some mental issues, but what they did was wrong on so many levels. I was pretty angry. But get the kicker:

While the kid was sobbing and hyperventilating none of the girls parents stepped in to see if it was their child, nor did they punish them. I know good and well they all knew as one of the other moms at the game told them what had happened. They all just shrugged it off like it was normal. I followed the poor boy over to his mom to see if everything was okay and she thanked me.

I am seeing this more and more everyday and am wondering if it is just me that sees it. Personally I think it is the role models they see on t.v. shows like TMZ. And it really isn't just the 6-9 year olds. Some of the 10-13 year olds are cussing like sailors at school sporting events and running around like they have no brain. Honestly they need to get some sense knocked into them before they get themselves into deep trouble.

[nutz4hpotter6]

Okay. This post shocked me to see that some one as young as you stating something like this. I have seen this for ages. Every younger generation seems to act worse then the one before. I see it with the adults of some of the kids aged from 6-9 and 10-13. They don't want to do anything for themselves. My son and daughter have played sports for different organizations. I have noticed especially with the baseball league my son was in that the women didn't want to work the concession stand while there child was playing. They act like prima donnas (don't know if that is right). They don't want to do anything for the organization to help the kids. The organization is for the kids not for the parents to meet and make friends.

I guess you can see that how they are acting at the age of 6-9 and 10-13 is why they act that way as adults.

I feel that those parents of those girls don't care what there kids do. Those are the same parents that I probably saw when they were 6-9 or 10-13 doing similar things that their daughters were doing. I am sure that their parents didn't punish them for their actions back then so they don't feel that they should punish their kids.

I think it is great that you went and made sure that the boy was alright. I always feel that things happen for a reason and that what comes around goes around.

[Te§§a™]

Same here. I know they weren't punished because those girls keep it going at it. If they had been punished before for their actions then they still wouldn't be doing it. It is just sad to see it.

We have an annual tournament for a girl who was killed in a car wreck in honor for her as well as scholarship money. The softball tournament turns out a great number of people but I have noticed while working there that it is hard to get people to work because they want to watch the things instead of working concessions or taking money or even umping. There are only a select few that will do the work.

You are right; they see their parents act like that and think "If they can get away so can I." and it is sad to see they have no discipline at all. It is hard though to see it at my age and know that those who are older and younger than me are acting like they have no brain. I mean is this what I was supposed to look up to when I was their age? I am glad I didn't.

It all comes back around to the role models that these girls look up to. They see those self-centered awful girls on MTV, VH1, BET, and a whole bunch of other stations and watch as they hurt those around them and do as they do because they think it is right and they can get away with it. I do believe that karma will get them soon, but I hope they get their act together before something serious happens to them.

The most sad part about the whole ordeal is that they could have really scarred that kid for life. He could end up trying to stay as an outcast and be called all sorts of horrible names. Too often this is happening and the result is what we have seen from the past; school shootings, suicide, and cold blood murder for revenge and I think those girls just don't get it. That or they don't care what could happen as a result of their actions.

Our school is doing it's part by having anti-bully assemblies, posters and guest speakers but I don't think it is getting through to them.

[nutz4hpotter6]

OH I know what you mean about the anti bully assemblies and stuff.. I worked in one of the elementary schools for 9 years...I was shocked to see how the kids changed year after year.. you have a select few every year that are fine but it seems that the numbers for being mean are on the rise. It also doesn't help when the principle feels that treating them with kid gloves is going to prevent them from doing it again.. It got to a point where I was like why bother writing up a student for their behavior when all she did was lecture them and tell them if it happens again you will be suspended and when it happened again she would say the same thing... The kids know they can get away with it and continue to do it.. I think if a kid is able to lay a hand, finger on an adult and not get in to trouble then it should be the same for an adult. I know that may sound drastic but I have seen kids kick, punch and scream at the teacher and they just go to time out, until they calm down. If that was my child acting like that I would slap him and tell him to stop.. or grab his hands and tell him/her to stop..

Yes the shows on MTV especially the Real World, where they are doing nothing but partying and everything.. It is a shame that the parent are letting them watch it at that age. My daughter and I have watched it but usually we talk about what happens too.

Now there is a new show on The N called Queen Bees, there friends recommended these contestants for this show to hopefully get them to change there ways because they are real pains in the butts... I haven't decided if I like it yet.

It is scary to think that some of these people could some day rule the city, state, America or the world!!

[Leigh]

I've noticed this forever now.
Especially with a 14 year old sister who has never learned respect, consideration, or responsibility. She's already stealing alcoholic drinks from my parents, and she's never been punished for it. It's not just her I'm seeing this in, but also in her classmates and friends. They've no thought for anyone. What does it matter if their actions hurt someone else, as long as it doesn't hurt them? And any mistake they make isn't their fault. It annoys me to death. They're rude and mean. I just don't get it. My sister was raised by the same parents I was. I'm not saying that I'm perfect, because I'm not.

Another thing that's rising is promiscuity. Last Halloween at school, we had Naughty Nurses and male strippers, referees with the number 69 on the pockets and short, itty bitty skirts, and slutty versions of Disney Princesses. No one was sent home, even though their butts were practically hanging out. My mom's shocked to find out all of these people are engaging in intercourse, and to see how many of these girls get pregnant or get diseases. At least 40-50% of the people I've talked to at school have had sex with more than 2 or 3 people... Gross.

We don't have bullying assemblies, or sex ed, or anything that would address these issues, simply for the fact that the school board doesn't want to address these issues and risk angering parents (especially since the whole abstinence vs. safe sex is such a huge issue.) I think it's stupid. The school board should focus more on what would help the students, and not what's going to anger the parents.

[nutz4hpotter6]

Jul 20, 2008 14:07:32 GMT -5 Leigh said:

I've noticed this forever now.
Especially with a 14 year old sister who has never learned respect, consideration, or responsibility. She's already stealing alcoholic drinks from my parents, and she's never been punished for it. It's not just her I'm seeing this in, but also in her classmates and friends. They've no thought for anyone. What does it matter if their actions hurt someone else, as long as it doesn't hurt them? And any mistake they make isn't their fault. It annoys me to death. They're rude and mean. I just don't get it. My sister was raised by the same parents I was. I'm not saying that I'm perfect, because I'm not.

Another thing that's rising is promiscuity. Last Halloween at school, we had Naughty Nurses and male strippers, referees with the number 69 on the pockets and short, itty bitty skirts, and slutty versions of Disney Princesses. No one was sent home, even though their butts were practically hanging out. My mom's shocked to find out all of these people are engaging in intercourse, and to see how many of these girls get pregnant or get diseases. At least 40-50% of the people I've talked to at school have had sex with more than 2 or 3 people... Gross.

We don't have bullying assemblies, or sex ed, or anything that would address these issues, simply for the fact that the school board doesn't want to address these issues and risk angering parents (especially since the whole abstinence vs. safe sex is such a huge issue.) I think it's stupid. The school board should focus more on what would help the students, and not what's going to anger the parents.

I'm sorry to quote the whole post but there is so much that I agree with..

I know that with your sister how annoying it can be that she seems to get away with everything or at least it seems that way. I myself am the younger sibling out of my sister and I. My problem was that my sister never got caught doing the wrong things so I got punished when ever I did anything wrong. Plus my parents had the same rules for both of us. Now to bring it to a more current situation.. this has to deal with my son, he is 16 and has his permit and he decided that he was bored one night at around 1 or 2 in the morning. I am awakened by our phone and when I pick it up I find out it is the police. They had my car and my son and if I would come and pick them up. Oh I was ready for him to be in jail and to loose his permit from the police. You know they let us take him home, they didn't do anything. Now tell me what does that show to kids. I still think that as his parents I should have had the right to have him arrested, but since I wasn't fully awake I wasn't thinking clearly. That shows me there that adults in authority don't even want to be bothered with doing there job. The response from the officers were it's what boys do, if it was for a girl they would really understand. I couldn't believe it. Okay enough on that.

Now I understand about the promiscuity too. I do have to say that in our high school you see it a lot but at the same time you have some of the staff that will try and correct the students that are not dressed correctly. I blame that on some of the famous people that are dressed like they work a street corner.

I also feel that the people on the school board should worry about the students and how everything affects the way students learn. If a teacher dressed inappropriately they would be reprimanded or worse fired. Parents would be up in arms if they saw a teacher dressing or acting like some of the students dress or act. It is a double standard and I think it is wrong..

Okay I think I have vented enough for now... lol

[Te§§a™]

Jul 20, 2008 14:35:35 GMT -5 nutz4hpotter6 said:

Jul 20, 2008 14:07:32 GMT -5 Leigh said:

I've noticed this forever now.
Especially with a 14 year old sister who has never learned respect, consideration, or responsibility. She's already stealing alcoholic drinks from my parents, and she's never been punished for it. It's not just her I'm seeing this in, but also in her classmates and friends. They've no thought for anyone. What does it matter if their actions hurt someone else, as long as it doesn't hurt them? And any mistake they make isn't their fault. It annoys me to death. They're rude and mean. I just don't get it. My sister was raised by the same parents I was. I'm not saying that I'm perfect, because I'm not.

Another thing that's rising is promiscuity. Last Halloween at school, we had Naughty Nurses and male strippers, referees with the number 69 on the pockets and short, itty bitty skirts, and slutty versions of Disney Princesses. No one was sent home, even though their butts were practically hanging out. My mom's shocked to find out all of these people are engaging in intercourse, and to see how many of these girls get pregnant or get diseases. At least 40-50% of the people I've talked to at school have had sex with more than 2 or 3 people... Gross.

We don't have bullying assemblies, or sex ed, or anything that would address these issues, simply for the fact that the school board doesn't want to address these issues and risk angering parents (especially since the whole abstinence vs. safe sex is such a huge issue.) I think it's stupid. The school board should focus more on what would help the students, and not what's going to anger the parents.

My problem was that my sister never got caught doing the wrong things so I got punished when ever I did anything wrong. Plus my parents had the same rules for both of us. Now to bring it to a more current situation.. this has to deal with my son, he is 16 and has his permit and he decided that he was bored one night at around 1 or 2 in the morning. Oh I was ready for him to be in jail and to loose his permit from the police. You know they let us take him home, they didn't do anything. Now tell me what does that show to kids. I still think that as his parents I should have had the right to have him arrested, but since I wasn't fully awake I wasn't thinking clearly. The response from the officers were it's what boys do, if it was for a girl they would really understand.

Now I understand about the promiscuity too. I do have to say that in our high school you see it a lot but at the same time you have some of the staff that will try and correct the students that are not dressed correctly. I blame that on some of the famous people that are dressed like they work a street corner.

I also feel that the people on the school board should worry about the students and how everything affects the way students learn. If a teacher dressed inappropriately they would be reprimanded or worse fired. Parents would be up in arms if they saw a teacher dressing or acting like some of the students dress or act. It is a double standard and I think it is wrong..

Okay I think I have vented enough for now... lol

Thankfully our principle is strict with the dress code. If your shirt is in violation you get a shirt to wear all day that says; MY PRINCIPLE ROCKS. If it is the bottoms you have to go change into gym clothes or go home.



There are three seventh graders that I know that have had sex before entering the seventh grade. One of them had it in fifth grade. This year we had two girls graduate pregnant; one didn't know who the father was. Every year we have a quite a few abstinence and sex ed assemblies at school that intermix with drug awareness and other things. I know when I was in elementary at another school we hardly touched the "Say No To Drugs" campaign. It seems that each year they grow more interactive and positive. I think it is making an impact on maybe 40% of the school. The other 60% still bully and drink, use drugs and have sex despite the warnings.

I agree parents should have the right to have their kids arrested. One night in a holding cell may just shock them into reality. However sometimes if the kid has a record they will be arrested. I think they let your son off easy Monica is because:

A. Like you said they think it is what boys do
B. It was the car of a parents despite he didn't have permission
C. They were too lazy to do anything

As you may or may not remember/know I do have an older *cringe* sister and man is[was] she horrible. When she was around she constantly snuck out and took some beer from my dad without him knowing. When he would confront her about it she would pawn it off on me so I'd get in trouble. If he caught her in the act she would break down into tears and apologize. Not that she meant it, but he bought it. Now that she's gone and the beers haven't been disappearing he figured out it had been her all along. Took him long enough though...

My brother is only 11 but I swear that kid has no manners. He is rude 24/7, passes gas whenever he feels like it, and hits me daily for "angering" him as he put it. In reality it is me telling him that he oughtn't be doing what he was doing so he punches me. Then I get roped in and it is a mess.

I am slightly surprised that they allowed such costumes. Here we can wear costumes ONLY if we are partaking in the best costume contest. Then the principle gives you a three page letter that states what is acceptable and what isn't acceptable; plus it gives pictures. So from seeing what he did I assumed that many schools followed suit but I guess not.

I heard about that Queen B and saw a few clips on various news shows. One of the worst ones was a sort of interview where she told her worst secret. Turns out she told her bf that she was preggers only so he would pamper her and then told him she had a miscarriage and never told him the truth. That is the stuff kids are watching and that is the stuff they will learn to do and be shameless about it.

[nutz4hpotter6]

Tessa I have to agree with you about them being lazy... I think that was one of the reasons. I do think that sitting in a holding cell would have made him realize how good he has it here but with my luck they probably would have let them sit at a desk or ride along with them the rest of the night and he would have had fun, lol.

Yes that Queen B clip is one think I didn't like. I mean the bf is finding this out now when she is on the tv show. Imagine how he feels plus what his friends are probably saying about him behind his back no less.

I know how annoying younger siblings can be since I was one of them. I remember though how I always got in trouble for things that I didn't do and I just took the punishment, but then I would do things to get back at her and when she retaliated I went running to mom.. Then I got caught starting it once so that didn't last long.

[Te§§a™]

Once or twice I never got caught at the revenge. It was quite fun. ;D

Yes they probably would have taken him as a ride along. Trying to show him what is out there; but really just providing him with something to do when he could be in more trouble at home.

I feel for the guy because the nation found out before him; and he's the BF!! Not only that but what she did to him is unforgivable.

[nutz4hpotter6]

Yes that is very unforgivable. I just hope they aren't together anymore. If they are then he must be really stupid or blinded by love.

[Leigh]

Or blinded by lust.

I actually wrote about my concerns about my generation on myspace (mind you, it wasn't rude and no one in particular was mentioned) and got some very nasty comments back that only proved my point. They were like "Well you're just a stuck up b**** who doesn't know how to have fun." I responded very kindly with "No. I just don't need the help of drugs, sex, or alcohol to have fun." It was really quite annoying.

Wow! I mean... I drove when I had my permit, but my mom always knew that I had the car and I was extra careful not to get pulled over. I can't believe they didn't do anything. This kid I work with got caught driving without a license. He had to go to court and pay a big fine.

[nutz4hpotter6]

Jul 22, 2008 23:18:24 GMT -5 Leigh said:

Or blinded by lust.

I actually wrote about my concerns about my generation on myspace (mind you, it wasn't rude and no one in particular was mentioned) and got some very nasty comments back that only proved my point. They were like "Well you're just a stuck up b**** who doesn't know how to have fun." I responded very kindly with "No. I just don't need the help of drugs, sex, or alcohol to have fun." It was really quite annoying.

Wow! I mean... I drove when I had my permit, but my mom always knew that I had the car and I was extra careful not to get pulled over. I can't believe they didn't do anything. This kid I work with got caught driving without a license. He had to go to court and pay a big fine.

I see how that proved your point. I don't drink to have fun I drink because I may want a glass of wine or something. I still get teased by people because I don't drink at parties. I just don't see how it is fun to get drunk and not remember what you did. Plus it is always fun watching the idiots make bigger fools of themselves.

I know, I still don't know what to say about my son not getting in to trouble. I have a feeling it has to do with the fact that he is a good kid that did something stupid and since he has never been in trouble before they just figured we would handle it.

All I can say now is that he is doing well and is acting more like himself or at least what I am use to. I just think he needs to be constantly busy or else he does stupid things.

[RoxyRocks]

I am gong to throw my 2 cents in.

I am 17 so I am the result of some of these things that have happened. I play competitive volleyball and have been on varsity since I was a freshaman (seems likes so long ago). But m freshman year I had one serious boyfriend and he was a junior and wanted me to have sex but I wouldnt and we broke up. He said it was because we didnt have anything in common but I knew why. Now I am a senior or going to be a senior. I have a serious boyfriend who wants me to move in but we already got through all that. He is sweet now and not pushy at all anymore and he actually accepts that I want to stay a virgin until I find the right guy.

When we were little I was a bully type girl like one of the girls who you talked about in the begining post. But I went to therapy and got better. So just becasue they were that way when they were younger doesnt mean they will be that way forever.

[Te§§a™]

I know that because some of my old friends were like you; went to therapy or had a realisation and decided maybe bullying isn't the smartest thing to do.

However it will take more for those girls because I hear them talking about what they watched on 'Real World' and shows like that all the time. And I think to myself 'They are eight! They should not be watching drunk idiots!'. But the parents let them and you see what it does.

I was watching Super Nanny last night for the fun of it, and the mom pretty much gave up and let the kids run her life. That is another way they become stuck up.

As for you Leigh, that would prove my point with icing on the cake. I guarantee those who commented nasty were probably like what I described. It is sad though that people depend on sex, drugs and alcohol to have a 'good time'. It's obvious that they don't think about consequences while they are 'having fun'. Sex you can get an STD, drugs you can OD, and alcohol you can die of poisoning.

Growing up my grandpa would be classified as an alcoholic only because that was all he drank. He never got violent just wanted his beer at noon and wouldn't stop drinking until he was passed out in bed. I watched many people get hangover's and wonder, 'why drink so much if you know what will happen?'. Personally it looks like the went through he-- and back just for that buzz.

Leigh you are lucky. I could have had my learners at 14 and be allowed to drive around town. At 15 I could get my permit and drive to surrounding areas. When 16 I could drive a passenger and at 18 get my license. But you see my parents had to go parental on me because of all the accidents and the closest I get to driving is a lawn mower.

No joke. At all. Dead serious.

[Leigh]

I'm not saying people can't change, because they can and probably eventually will.

BTW, good for you, Roxy, and not giving in. =D That's awesome! And it's also very awesome that you have a boyfriend who understand and accepts the fact that you are saving yourself for the right guy.

For me, having fun is something I want to remember. When I "party" there's normally an adult there, and we talk, watch moves, dance around to random music, and eat our weight in snacks. I love it because it's the kind of stuff I never forget. Even when there's not an adult (but my mom knew I was having people over) ... all we did was have one guy come over (and he is gay and my mom wouldn't have cared), bring us ice cream, and hang out for a bit. Then he left and we did everything we normally do. That's the partying I like.

It's good that your son is back to normal, Monica. =) Being good doesn't condone it, but it is a lot better to be stupid once than to be stupid all of the time. Everyone does something stupid at some point in their life.
Unless they're Jesus.
That would be pretty cool.
I would totally be a Jesus fan girl. (I do believe in Jesus by the way. That wasn't implying that I don't...)

I hate, hate, hate driving. Urgh. Such a pain. And it costs a lot. And it pollutes the air.
The only thing I like is that it gets me places faster.