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Post by Leigh on Dec 23, 2006 12:22:49 GMT -5
When it says "at the solstice will come a new.....and none will come after...." in OotP, could it be referring to the release date of the book as well (as we now all know that it referred to the release of the name)? It doesn't specify WHICH solstice, so it could have a double meaning.
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Post by bandgeek706 on Dec 23, 2006 15:39:10 GMT -5
Yeah that is what people are saying about the solstice, and how she told us on December 21st the winter solstice. So that would mean that she is pretty certain and telling us that there will be no more books after this 7th book.
It still is all confusing to me what she really wants it to mean, and I bet she wants us to keep guessing up until the release of the book, and once we figure it out, it will only be by reading the book.
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Post by nutz4hpotter6 on Dec 23, 2006 18:27:19 GMT -5
Hey nice catch there guys. I was so excited about the title and everything didn't even realize what day it was. I think we will be trying to figure out what the title means up until we read it too. This was the best Christmas Present ever.
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Post by Leigh on Dec 23, 2006 20:09:03 GMT -5
Yes, it really was!! The best present by far though, would be the release of the actual book. =) Of course, I want it sooner than next Christmas. So I'll consider it a late Christmas gift when it comes out. Hehe.
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Post by nutz4hpotter6 on Dec 23, 2006 20:38:41 GMT -5
Oh yes that would be better if it was released. I know it will feel like Christmas again when the book is released. I am already asking for gift certificates so I can buy it. Just knowing the title means it is getting closer.
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Post by bandgeek706 on Dec 24, 2006 10:32:35 GMT -5
I donno if it would be better if the book was released right now, I don't think that we have had enough time to speculate, and make tons of theories about what we think is going to happen, or at least I haven't had enough time, I just think she released the other book not so long ago so and that she hasn't given us enough clues to really getting speculating. I may be far off here, but really I think like next summer is good to wait for the next book to come out.
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Post by nutz4hpotter6 on Dec 24, 2006 17:08:30 GMT -5
Okay when you say next summer do you mean 2007 or 2008? I don't think we have alot of speculation to do because there are certain things that we know have to happen. Like we know that Harry has to go back to the Dursley's, he is going to Bill and Fluer's wedding and to Godric's Hollow. We can speculate as to what is going to happen at these places and events. I think 2008 is way to long.
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Post by Leigh on Dec 28, 2006 11:53:01 GMT -5
Amazon France says the book will be published Dec. 31, 2007. That's a year away!! (This date hasn't yet been comfirmed by the publishers though). It made me so sad. I think she should release it on the 23 of Dec. It'd be an awesome Christmas present.
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Post by weasleyfan on Dec 28, 2006 12:55:25 GMT -5
Oh I can't wait, and I thought it was a different date?
Hum confuzzled, but still interested, please keep up dates posted, cause my computer isn't all that fast and to surf the net is kind of difficult.
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Post by Quidditch Queen on Dec 28, 2006 12:58:00 GMT -5
Omg, it has to be next summer! Like June 21st or something, the summer solstice.
Why do I have an absolutely dreadful feeling that he's going to die? I mean, it's almost obvious, but still, we're all in denial, aren't we?
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Post by weasleyfan on Dec 28, 2006 13:03:10 GMT -5
Oh no, don't even say it, we have to BELIEVE that Harry's gonna live. We must have hope...
(I know I'm a drama queen, but it's fun lol)
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Post by Mays on Dec 28, 2006 18:04:05 GMT -5
When it says "at the solstice will come a new.....and none will come after...." in OotP, could it be referring to the release date of the book as well (as we now all know that it referred to the release of the name)? It doesn't specify WHICH solstice, so it could have a double meaning. But don;t you think it's a bit far-fetched to actually say she planned on releasing the title of the seventh book while writing the fifth several years ago? I think she actually wrote that with no idea what she would release at the solstice, but after she decided on the title, she thought it fitting to put it out at the time. I mean, I think it's brilliant, but one's predictions have limits. Anyway. .I had written what I heard & what I think about the next book's title & what it means in the GCR, so I'm just gunna copy-paste most of it. It could mean MILLIONS of things.. for one, Hallows are, obviously, used as a noun, not a verb (Which is the only format you'd find in a dictionary), so people had to search the etymology of Hallows. It could mean Saints ( some people say it may refere to Halloween, All Hallows Eve. But there's no Eve in the title, which cancells it all, in my opinion).It might mean Shrines, & could be used to describe the relics of saints, so Seeking Hallows meant Visiting Shrines or relics of Saints. & I read somewhere that the saints themselves were represented in those objects (relics) & they were used, as some site I can't remember the name of (printed the page w/o the URL.) "as a sort of vessel through which the saints were presented on earth. Fathom that, now. Hogwarts Founders? Four Founders-related objects as Horcruxes? Also, another etymology, which supports what I think is the best theory up 'till now, is from the Arthurian legends. Hallows were four sacred objects (I also read somewhere else they were 13. But w/e) A Sword, a platter, a spear, & a cup (The Grail). Those four sacred objects were sought by those on a quest for the grail. Putting aside the religious-value if it (though someone told me that JK said that some of her religious belief will come in use in the book. Is that right? I think It'd be stupid to, especially with those flames that are sending towards her. anyway, got off track.) Those can mean the four remaining horcruxes, obviously. The sword can be Gryffindor's sword, though I think there;s no way in the world for LV to get his hands on. maybe he planned on turning it into a Horcrux, but didn't manage it before he attacked the Potters. I mean, he surely didn't intend in dying that day. & I dunno what the platter could be. The cup would surely be Hufflepuff's. & the spear could be a wond, or something.. I'm not sure, but I think that theory is the most plausable. Also, I read that there were four gaurdians on those "Hallows" & they placed them in the "Underworld" which had entrances through caves & such. & they thought only a few mortals can get through to the Underworld & come out alive. Oh, & the verb hallowed (As found in my dictionary) means to make holy. Respected, honoured & important. I also found out that deathly can be a synonym to deadly, but is more of a description of death or of something the resembles death. Like, in Gof, It was said that voldemort's fingers were "Deathly white". It's also more often used to describe something that is subject or mortal, not that that causes death. |
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Post by nutz4hpotter6 on Dec 28, 2006 20:09:54 GMT -5
Okay I read everything in that post and also read it online and in another forum. I think we will over analyze this until the book is released. I think of Hallows as something Holy which could mean a person or an object. Maybe the title just means that the Deaths are going to be holy or sacred in some way. Not sure how but just a thought.
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Post by Leigh on Dec 28, 2006 22:25:40 GMT -5
I over-analyze a lot. It's a good way to come up with many plausible theories, though. I've been thinking over this title, and thinking over it again constantly.
Considering that she chose the word deathly, I'm not thinking she's using it as the synonym of deadly. What really bothers me though, is wondering why she chose such an old word as hallows? I cannot wait for the release of the actual names of the book in the different countries. Hopefully that will shed more light on the meaning of it.
I've been reading more, and there is a simple theory. That Harry's parents were killed on Halloween, making it a "Deathly Hallows". I don't exactly agree with it.
Also, (I knew this before... I've just been thinking about it more.) it could mean like "All Hallows Eve" which is the day after Halloween. My church (Catholic) celebrates this and we have a feast at church on that day. We celebrate saints and martyrs. Could it somehow be pertaining to martyrs? I don't really think that's it either, but I'm keeping my mind open to options.
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Post by nutz4hpotter6 on Dec 29, 2006 0:25:22 GMT -5
Yeah the day after Halloween is All Saint's Day. That is what I have been thinking about too Leigh. I know that when I try to analyze things I start to get confused and then loose my train of thought on what I really meant.
I am just so confused by both words and the way that they are being used. Yeah when they are released in other languages that will help with us learning the true meaning of it.
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