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Post by chrohno023 on Jan 18, 2007 21:22:12 GMT -5
I was thinking maybe it's a nickname as well for somethin to do with Voldy... maybe Voldy's like somewhat secret HQ or sumthin or the other... I was also thinking every title so far has been something new that Jo made up... so maybe it's the final battleground for Harry and Voldy... I dunno. I'm weird.
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Post by Accio Padfoot! Refo on Jan 19, 2007 6:49:25 GMT -5
A nice way to put it, that might fit chrohno, Harry would go to LV's HQ to destroy the last part of LV's soul which is in Voldemort's body, and there, they will fight their final battle. Well, Deathly Hallows might be refering for both, the Horcruxes and the battleground, still they might be something we never thought about.
Hmm...I want to think about it, if we looked at the past six books, JK didn't introduce the thing that was mentioned in the title untill the middle or the end of the book, I mean, we never knew who the Half boold prince untill the end of the book, we knew the Chamber of secrets in the middle of the book, and so we did with the Stone...Hmm....but the Prisenor of Azkaban...oh well we knew who was the prisenor very early in the book, but we never knew he was innocent...the GoF, well, we can consider it the middle where we found out what it is, as for OoTP..am not sure, that makes me guess that the title of the seventh might not be hinting to the Horcruxes themselves, more likely to the battlefield as you said chrohno?
I can't see that I've led myself to anywhere. Aaaah! it's annoying, I need to think about it more, it might be very obvious that we simply didn't think about it, well, guess that's enough for now.
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Post by Pureblood on Jan 19, 2007 18:22:01 GMT -5
I was highly disappointed by J.K.'s title choice. I know she was tring to make it come accorss all grave and serious but it just sounds plain stupid to me, anyone else think it sounds like a bad point horror book???
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Post by Leigh on Jan 19, 2007 22:18:38 GMT -5
At first, I was a little disappointed with it, but I've grown used to it, I guess. It's not like I can do anything, really.
Prisoner of Azkaban was a bit of a give-away title, though. As well as Chamber of Secrets (although we didn't know exactly what that was).
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Post by Accio Padfoot! Refo on Jan 20, 2007 4:44:24 GMT -5
*sits down & is ready to think* Well, I found lots of random things, I expect this post will be very long.
Now, there is a big chance that it might mean the horcruxes, but let's put this aside and we'll come back to it later.
What I thought of is this: (I know it's terribly random..well..*shrug*).
When Voldemort made his horcruxes he sure thought of using them one day, didn't he? I mean, why else did he spent all this to make them if he didnt expect himself to use them?, but how is he, among all the people, going to take them back? he must've made a kind of spell or something like this, to make him not face all the curses and the let me call them "protection methods" he put. So what if those spells (or whatever thing that can help Voldemort get his horcruxes back) were "deathly" like if you weren't Voldemort, or probably, if you used them the wrong way, you'll be facing death? then Harry needs to use them to get the horcruxes too. Like, we know it's the cup, nagini and other stuff, but we don't know where to find them, and if with every horcrux from the four that are left along with Voldy's body, we were to read a searching trip, we will never finish reading, the book will be very "paper-stuffed". and as Chrohno said, JK makes up new things for her titles, so what if she made up those deathly hallows, hallows because they were made and used only by Voldemort , no "unworthy" wands tried to cast them before.
I know it's very very random, oh well, I always say am a Ravy by mistake (lol).
One more thing, I thought that maybe Deathly refered to Iferies?? like, Voldemort will use a whole army of them, but this time not just to save a horcrux, especially that Harry now knows how to deal with them. Well, I dont think so, but there is no harm to say whatever that could be possible, is there?(even if it was meaningless?)
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Post by nutz4hpotter6 on Jan 21, 2007 0:29:40 GMT -5
That was long Refo. I think I got what you meant. It is a possibility. I have tried to analyze this title but can't think of anything. When the title first came out I was like what? I don't get it. Now I am use to it. I just can't figure out what Hallows will be.
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Post by Accio Padfoot! Refo on Jan 21, 2007 9:57:49 GMT -5
Well, when I first knew the title I was very happy to ever think what it could mean, or whether it is good or bad, I was just like: YAAAAAAY! we've got the title, we've got the title!, didn't really care if it was so dark and mysterious at first, but now, I guess it is revealing that the 7th book would be very dark!
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Post by nutz4hpotter6 on Jan 21, 2007 16:23:10 GMT -5
I think we all knew it was going to be very dark. The second war does begin at the end of the 6th book. I would never have guessed the title in a million years. I was happy to get the title but wasn't overly thrilled with it.
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Post by chrohno023 on Jan 21, 2007 16:39:25 GMT -5
Lol thank you very much raven for the mentions and the info. There's an infinite amount of possibilities for the name, but I'm sure it'll be something we mentioned in one way or another. And when you think about it, every name so far has been kinda weird in its own name cuz we didnt KNOW what exactly it was. We had no idea what the chamber of secrets, goblet of fire, or ootp actually was, but then after we got introduced to it we got used to it. In that sense, the name doesn't disappoint me simply because I know Jo will back it up well enough. That's my idea at least...
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Post by Accio Padfoot! Refo on Jan 21, 2007 16:55:21 GMT -5
You put it in a nice way chrohno, what you said is very right, we will get used to it, or else, we'll be loving it when the book comes out, am just sure we'll do. I wasn't disappointed with it at all too, but as you said Nutz, would never have guessed it, not in a zillion years.
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Post by nutz4hpotter6 on Jan 21, 2007 19:13:26 GMT -5
You had to one up me Refo. Lol J/K I know she will explain the title in the book and when she does we will all be Oh that was so obvious and feel stupid. I like the title but don't understand it either. I like how you put it Chrohno.
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Post by chrohno023 on Jan 22, 2007 19:53:26 GMT -5
Lol thank you guys. I just like to use simple reasoning when it comes to this stuff, I mean so far no books have honestly disappointed me. If it was brand new like the Goblet Of Fire, it was exciting and thrilling in its own way. If we did know about it somewhat, prisoner of azkaban anyone?, then we were excited because we wanted to unravel the mystery of what we had previously learned from the previous books. And now, we know it's the last book. Therefore, Jo's using this to anticipate the world and make us think about these things cuz she's a crazy psycho genius like that. She's making it worth it, and I think a new title will tie in, as everything tends to do regarding HP, in one way or another.
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Post by Accio Padfoot! Refo on Jan 22, 2007 20:17:55 GMT -5
You had to one up me Refo. Lol J/K I know she will explain the title in the book and when she does we will all be Oh that was so obvious and feel stupid. I like the title but don't understand it either. Yes, the best part is the suspense, that she keeps you excited all the way, even knowing the title helps in knowing nothing related to the main events. Haha, right!
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Post by nutz4hpotter6 on Jan 23, 2007 6:45:21 GMT -5
I like the way you put it Chrohno. She is a crazy psycho genius. And using simple reasoning to figure things out is probably the best because I think we over analyze everything. Then we start second guessing ourselves too.
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Post by bandgeek706 on Jan 23, 2007 10:33:20 GMT -5
I like all that you have said about the title and what it could all mean. I also agree that it is a little difficult and new to grasp what it means, and I think it will just ultimately come to us reading the book and finding out how it ties into the story.
I love that the title doesn't really fit in with anything people have thought of, and like you said its a new idea like many titles before. Even with the prisoner of askaban we had no idea of who the prisoner was before we read the book, its the same with all of the other books. I really think that JK did a great job this time with the title... she gave us a dark title that is really hard to figure out, and really I don't think she wants us to figure it all the way out, if the title was too easy there wouldn't be any fun in trying to figure out what it means.
I think of it as someone giving out a random obscure clue for a present for someone... you don't want that person to figure out what you are giving them before they open the present, because that would ruin all of the fun and excitement and joy, so I believe that its the same way with the title, the real answer for the deathly hollows will probably be the last idea we could ever possibly think of and once we read it will be amazed at how we couldn't figure it out before.
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