McGonagall Theory??

[nutz4hpotter6]

Okay I was just in Barnes and Noble book clubs. They are discussing alot of things about the HP books. I have never heard of this theory but just want to put it out there for you guys to comment. I don't know if any one here has ever heard of the book The Plot Thickens. It is a Harry Potter Analysis book. I have never heard of it so I will be checking out the book store today or tomorrow. Okay now on to this theory. I am going to try and make it shorter then what I read.

The theory is that McGonagall is Death Eater. That when Voldemort talks about his DE at the grave yard and says that his most loyal Death Eater is at Hogwarts. He doesn't mean Snape or Crouch Jr. but in fact means McGonagall. I know that Voldemort does use the word he but the post I read said that could just have been said because if he said she it wouldn't leave too many choices as to whom he was talking about.

This is just something I read on a different site. The things posted about McGonagall now have me wondering if maybe she is a Death Eater.

The person states about how she is nervous in some scenes and then not nervous when she should be. Like when Snape kills Dumbledore she feels that she is very relaxed and ready to take command. She also goes on to state about how she watches the Dursley's all day. And when Dumbledore arrives she is not sure if the rumors are true or not. For someone not sure if the Potter's are dead then why is she stalking the Dursley's?

There are many more reasons she gives but I don't feel like posting them all. Just tell me what you guys think. All I have to say is that I am now very curious about McGonagall.

[iamafan]

i kinda wondered why she was so relaxed when dumbledore died.it's a possibility that she is a DE.

[nutz4hpotter6]

Wow you seem so relaxed about this. I have never heard of this theory until this past weekend. My son then started to give reasons as to why she acted the different ways. I can't think of them right now but he had me thinking she wasn't a death eater.

There was another reason she gave too was in HBP when Snape tells Draco if you need help I am here to help you. Draco says (not sure exactly) that he has better help here at Hogwarts. So who is the better help??? Now I feel like I need to read all the books again really slow but I don't have the time.

[iamafan]

i thought draco just meant his friends were better help.

[snuffles]

u know how u said that in the graveyard that voldemort mentions that his most loyal DE is at hogwarts, he must have meant crouch because then he goes on to elaborate that its this DE who made sure harry got there. so he cant have meant mcgonagall could he?

[iamafan]

he also could of meant the fake moody.

[nutz4hpotter6]

That is true Snuffles. That is why this theory intrigues me. The person who posted it in B&N book club went on to say that in any mystery novel the criminal is always introduced in the beginning of the story. McGonagall was towards the beginning of the book.

That is one reason Snuffles that I don't necessarily believe this theory. I just found it very interesting. I am gald to get feed back from others too. I will try to post some more of what she said about this theory.

[iloveuandhp2]

it may be possible like what u all r saying about after dd was killed she just walked into his office like nothing happened

[iamafan]

if i were her i'd be freaking out yelling "How could this of happened!!??"

[GinnyLynn]

ya.. that is very interesting... i never even thought that McGonagall could be a death eater... it never even entered my mind!! but it's possible!!

[nutz4hpotter6]

I know I never heard of it but when I did it peaked my interest. It would be such a twist that none of us had expected.

[iamafan]

anything is possible now that it's the 7th book!!

[Te§§a™]

She could have been relaxed because it was a planned death. I honestly believe that Dumbledore would not go down that easily, even if he was old. He seems like the guy to go down with a fight.

About the "she" part, it could that his loyal DE is using some sort of poly-juice potion or is a metamorphagous[sp] discuising themselves like a person like Filtch or someong less likely, kind of like Quirrel.

I think that she watched the Dursleys all day because I believe she was close to Lily/James seeing as Lily was one of the top students and she saw James probably on a daily basis in her office due to pranks. ;D

Not to down play the theory or anything. Although it is an interesting theory and I congradulate the one who thought of it, because I personally wouldn't have. ;D

[Leigh]

I have The Plot Thickens and have read the theories in it. Honestly, this one didn't catch my attention that much.

Maybe McGonagall is just good with stressful situations. We've seen her in other situations which were stressful, and she still acted the same way. She's not one who freaks out and goes to pieces, and that's a good thing. If she had, Hogwarts would be in more trouble than it already is.

I'm not trying to get rid of the theory or say "Ha! Right, that's a load of poo." I think it's just in McGonagall's character to stay calm when everyone else may be freaking out. She's the one ready to move on because they have to, and her attitude will end up helping everyone.

[nutz4hpotter6]

I know this theory seems far fetched. I just found it very interesting. I have not read the PLot Thickens yet. I have it on order. Hopefully I will be able to read it before the last book comes out. Once I read the Plot Thickens I will be able to form my own oppinions about McGonigal. I can't write everything this person wrote so I am copying it here. It is very long. Sorry for the length but this may help explain what I was trying to say.

Was Crouch Jr Voldemort's most faithful servant?
McGonagall is a death eater. THE death eater

I have a raging theory that McGonagall is a death eater and not only a death eater but THE most loyal death eater that Voldemort mentions in the graveyard near the end of GOF.

I've read these books 7 times. I used to like Prof. McGonagall, and if I were at Hogwarts,I would want her as a head of my house...UNTIL I read the end of HBP and saw how calm and cool and collected she was and how lightening fast she took over Dumbledore's office. I then became suspicious of her and started reading everything I found about here very slowly and carefully and once I was convinced she was a death eater, I started looking at the people she had dealings with, like Fudge mainly. I used to really like her, now I know she's evil.

My McGonagall theory:
Right off the bat McGonagall shows her true colors.
First of all, she’s been watching the Dursley’s all day. All day!
And when Dumbledore comes finally that night an entire 24 hours after the Potters were killed, McGonagall acts like she’s unsure if the rumours are true are not. For someone not sure if the Potters are dead, why is she stalking the Dursleys?

In the Mystery genre, the villian is usually introduced early in the book. McGonagall is the first person we are introduced to right after the Dursleys.

But even before she speaks a word to Dumbledore, she is still in her animagi form (a cat) and when she sees Dumbledore: "The cat’s tail twitched and its eyes narrowed". I have two cats and when my cats tails twitch or their eyes narrow they are ANGRY and ready to fight.

I find it a bit suspicous that the three who find HRH in the bathroom with the troll are Snape and Quirrel (Snape is trying to keep an eye on Quirrell), but what is McGonagall doing there?

Then, when they all get detention for being out past hours, its McGonagall that sends them into the Forbidden Forest as detention. Harry AND Neville, the two possible chosen candidates for destroying LV along with Malfoy, son of a death eater at 11 PM!

She moved into DD’s office AWFULLY fast after he died and then wants to know what Harry and DD were doing. Well, I can see that would be a valid question, but I think she wants to know for other reasons.

In POA Fudge and McGonagall are the ones telling Madam Rosmerta (Harry overhears) the story of Pettigrew being killed by Sirius but I think Fudge, being the first one on the scene after Pettigrew blew up the street and the muggles helped fabricate that story to frame Sirius. Also, I used to be convinced that Barty Crouch Jr never ever got the Dementor's Kiss, because, being suspicious of both McGonagall and Fudge, I thought something funny was going on and those two were fabricating a story about Fudge acting too hastily to cover up that there is no dementor kiss. However, now I am suspicious that Fudge needed to shut Crouch Jr up, thus the quick dementor kiss. I think Crouch Jr knew something about Fudge. Just suspicions

There are numerous examples of McGonagall acting nervous when something happens,I think she’s faking all that because when Dumbledore gets killed and instead of being nervous, she suddenly is like lightening into his office and cooler than usual.

Also wanted to mention that McGonagall and Malfoy seem to show up together here and there - the tower scene in SS when Malfoy is trying to convince McGonagall that Harry is taking a dragon up there - I think that McGonagall and Malfoy were caught together, so she HAD to give Malfoy detention, but they were together as allies. Also, Im stating to wonder when Malfoy encites Harry to get into trouble, a fight, detention, etc if he isnt doing it on McGonagall's insistance, orders or nudging. When McGonagall catches the kids up on the tower, she says she has never been more ashamed of a Hogwarts student. Really? You mean to tell me that she's been there 40 years, taught through the Weasleys and the 4 Marauders and heaven knows what else and she's most ashamed of finding a few students out of bed? Very strange.

In HBP when Draco says to Snape that he has other people in the castle, better people to help him, I think its McGonagall.

Also want to mention that McGonagall went to Hogwarts with Riddle.

Here is evidence listed by book...

SS Evidence:

Voldemort became Vapormort October 31, 1981. At 8:30 am November 1, 1981, McGonagall is reading a map at the corner of Privet Drive (SS Chapter 1, page 8). Mind you, why would she need to look at the map when she's already at the corner. Isn't that odd? Is it just an ordinary street map? Vernon says its a map, but could it be some kind of Marauder's map, perhaps McGonagall is waiting for someone. Someone to kill Petunia so the protection can't take place in the event something happens at Godric's Hollow. That person never shows up in my opinion and McGonagall is upset when she see's Dumbledore because her plans have gone south.

Anyway, Vernon leaves work at 5:00 pm and McGonagall is still there, sitting on his garden wall when he gets home. Later when she sees Dumbledore, it says "the cats tail twitched and its eyes narrowed". I have two cats and when that happens, that means they are ANGRY and ready to fight. Strange behavior for her to have don't you think?

Then, page 9, "Dumbledore didn't seem to realize that he had just arrived in a street where everything from his name to his boots were unwelcome. Now I realize that the Dursleys do not want him there, but what if that also means McGonagall. Anyway, I know..canon...speculation.

OK, so then she's described as wearing an emerald cloak. For someone so rabid about the Gryffindor Quiddich team, why is she wearing Slytherin colors? Yes, yes, I'm sure she's not the only person at the Castle wearing green...just presenting the canon from the books in case it can be used later in a court of law. ; )

She gets ruffled when Dumbledore recognizes her and asks 'How did you know it was me' Why is she ruffled that he recognized her? Is she an unregistered animagus at that point? When did she register? I know, speculation.

When DD shows up she's upset that he recognizes her. He is her headmaster and Voldemort is 'gone', shouldn't she make herself known, want to talk to him when he shows up? And WHY is she sitting there ALL day and then she complains that she's been sitting there all day. No one asked her to go there that I know of. No one on the good side anyway. Dumbledore says she should be out celebrating, but she's still upset, agitated or whatever. I mean, why is she agitated? Well, I think her master is
gone or at least vapor at this point. She's not a happy camper.

Then she acts like she's not sure the rumors are true. Well what the heck is she doing sitting on the Dursley's street ALL day if she's not sure that Voldemort is gone? Even if she is sure he's gone, why has she been sitting there all day? I find this very strange... Perhaps someone was supposed to come finish off the Dursleys before they could get Harry there and they didnt show up? If Harry's protection is from his only living relative, if someone can finish Petunia off before Harry gets
there, maybe then they can get to Harry because the protection won't be there. Maybe that person didnt show up, but McGonagall just kept waiting.

She just doesnt seem happy that Voldemort is gone and she falters when she finds out Harry stopped him. Geez, I would think she would be elated or filled with wonder about a child stopping Voldemort.

I realize she may not have been deputy headmistress yet or even head of Gryffindor, I do not know when she took over those roles, however she's a professor, Tuesday is a school day, I would think she should be teaching instead of sitting on a rock wall. She has the ability to apparate, why wait to hear from Dumbledore and then apparate quickly to Surrey? Why is SHE of all people waiting there? She obviously has no work to do there, she waits for Dumbledore and then leaves with him. What is her purpose there?!

McGonagall wonders why Dumbledore is there of all places (Privet drive). Well why is SHE there? Dumbledore says he's here to bring Harry to his Aunt and Uncle, the only family he has left. McGonagall is shocked that Dumbledore is going to have Harry live with them. SS page 13 'You don't mean - you can't mean the people who live here?' cried Professor McGonagall. If she didnt know he was going to have Harry live there, what is she shocked about.

Also, when Dumbledore offers her a lemon drop on SS page 10, he says its a muggle sweet he's fond of. She says 'No thank you' coldly. Then she's discussing how everyone's celebrating and the muggles have even noticed. Then she says "They're not completely stupid". She's not very fond of muggles is she. Sounds like maybe her motto is similar to the Black family.

First of all, how many times in history has the #2 guy wanted the #1 guy out so they can take over? Also, one of the main 'rules' for writing a detective novel (and Harry Potter is a gigantic detective novel even if JKR says its not), is introduce the bad guy early. McGonagall is introduced before we even hear about Voldemort. I'm not saying she's more evil than Voldemort, but she's the first one we are introduced to just after the Dursleys.

Dumbledore (page 13) says "Hagrid's late. I suppose it was he who told you I'd be here?" McGonagall, says "Yes". Is that true though, or did she lie? It is not confirmed that Hagrid told her when he shows up. Who DID tell her? Maybe no one told her, maybe she knew Voldemort's plan and her part of the plan was to wait there for him or someone else?

When Hagrid starts crying (page 15), McGonagall says "Yes, yes, its all very sad but get a grip on yourself." Doesn't sound like the McGonagall we all know, the nervous upset one? She gets upset and a nervous wreck over everything in the books, well, except when Dumbledore is dead and she gets to become headmistress or when Ron, Harry and Hermione tell her the SS is in danger of being taken. When things are going good for Voldemort or for herself gaining power, she seems to have a level head.

In SS, page (177) when McGonagall, Snape and Quirrell find HRH in the bathroom with the troll, regarding MM, "Harry had never seen her look so angry" and the next paragraph "What on earth were you thinking of?" said McGonagall with cold fury in her voice. Cold fury? Isnt that a strange phrase for discovering that at least none of them was hurt?

When HRH try to tell McGonagall that the stone is in danger of being stolen, McGonagall doesn't give any attention to their concern. Which, ok, they were three 11 year olds, I might have dismissed them also, but...since I think she's a DE, now I think she dismissed their concerns without investigating because she was trying to help Quirrell steal the stone.

COS Evidence:
McGonagall tells everyone in the staff room that a student has been taken and "Her skeleton will lie in the chamber forever". Madam Hooch asks which student and McGonagall says "Ginny Weasley". Was her name listed along with the "Skeleton in the chamber forever" line? HOW does McGonagall know its Ginny?

POA Evidence:
McGonagall is backing up Fudge's version of what happened when Sirius blew up he dozen muggles. I think Fudge is in cahoots with Lucius Malfoy, so the fact that McGonagall is backing up Fudge, I think she's just backing up his lies, but that's a different thread.

GOF Evidence:
Page 651 Voldemort says "And here we have six missing Death Eaters...three dead in my service. One, too cowardly to return..he will pay. One, who I believe has left me forever...he will be killed, of course... (I think that is Snape)...Yes LV is acting like he thinks Snape is loyal, but I think he really knows Snape is Dumbledore's man through and through, but thats another thread too). "and one, who remains my most
faithful servant, and who has already reentered my service" I think this is McGonagall. The other two living death eaters, Voldemort says "He" but for the 6th DE, he doesnt give a sex (male or female). I think its McGonagall.

The next paragraphs are:
"He is at Hogwarts, that faithful servant, and it was through his efforts that our young friend arrived here tonight...
"Yes, " said Voldemort, a grin curling his lipless mouth as the eyes of the circle flashed in Harry's direction. "Harry Potter has kindly joined us for my rebirthing party. One might go as far as to call him my guest of honor".

I think Voldemort is lying about one thing there... the He in this previous paragraph is a SHE. but if Voldemort said She, he would give McGonagall away..

HBP Evidence:
When Katie Bell gets cursed with the Necklace, Harry accuses Draco. McGonagall says (page 255) "Mr. Malfoy was not in Hogsmeade today...Because he was doing detention with me." She's his alibi, but since I think she's a DE, using her for an alibi doesnt work.

Another thing I noticed about McGonagall is when Katie Bell is semi-cursed by the Necklace in HBP, Filch wants to check the Harry and the gang with his secrecy sensors as they come back in and McGonagall tells him 'They're with me'. So, those students weren't checked because McGonagall vouched for them, wonder if there's anyone else she's vouched for. Also, McGonagall never tells Filch to warn Snape that the necklace is cursed, maybe she was trying to kill him, although Snape is smarter than that.

According to Rowling's schoolbook on Fantastic Beasts, Phoenix song increases the courage of the pure of heart and strike fear in the hearts of the impure. When everyone is in the hospital wing, they are listening to the Phoenix song and its giving them comfort. McGonagall is the one who comes in and starts talking, stopping the comfort. Yeah, I know..but when you read book 7, you'll see. Also want to mention that the only person who Harry notices not acting like everyone else with respect to the phoenix song is Pomfrey. Her eyes are wide and she has her hand over her mouth.
Im not saying she's a DE, but she may have a bit of an unclean heart if McGonagall is getting her to do a few things that she doesn't want to do.I think Pomfrey has done some things for McGonagall that aren't right and she regrets it.
One of those things might be that she vouched for McGonagall when McGonagall was hit with the 4 stunners to the chest in OOTP. I don't know if those stunners were real.
Remember the wicked witch and the poppies. McGonagall calls her Poppy.

OK, so in the hospital wing (and later in her offce - and MAN she lost no time moving into Dumbledore's office) she's usually an emotional bundle of nerves, DD is murdered by Snape NOT!(thats another thread) and she's cool as a cucumber. (pages 615-621)
And while she's in the hospital wing, she finds out that Snape killed Dumbledore. She heard some kind of rumor that Snape was involved but why is McGonagall, second in command in HW (now first) the only one thats behind the times in the news?
Shes the only one in Britian not celebrating in 1981 because she's not sure if LV is gone, yeah right! And she's the last to know that Snape killed Dumbledore? She was the ONLY person we see that didnt know for sure that VOldemort fell and the Potters were dead and she is the only person we see that didnt know for sure if Dumbledore is dead. Fishy fishy fishy.

And all she can talk about in the hospital wing is Snape. Nothing about Dumbledore, its all about Snape. Trying to deflect suspicion from herself maybe?

McGonagall gets agitated when Harry won't tell her what he and Dumbledore were doing. She reverts to calling him Potter instead of Harry.

Most of the Death Eaters probably do know each other, but I would think, If I were Voldemort, I would want to keep a few a secret and McGonagall would need to remain secret as the headmistress of Hogwarts. I wouldn't want some DE like Crabbe or Goyle or some other knucklehead blowing her cover. So I wonder if maybe NO ONE knows that McGonagall is a death eater except for Voldemort himself.

This was posted by PattyBNUChick on the B&N discussion about HP.